Wa and Ga explanation webpage?

  • Hi everybody!

    I have been asked to explain wa and ga to a beginning student of Japanese. I can speak Japanese, and I can do it, but man that is a lot of work. Does anyone have a link to a webpage that has a good explanation?


  • Oops, maybe I misread it. Does ううん mean, 'No'? I was reading it as うん.:p

    Thanks for the help, guys!


  • Well, there's on here on the main site (the tutorials), but putting them into summary. は means "as for..." and が actually makes it the subject. は can also be object, so don't forget to tell them that too. It shouldn't be difficult as long as they realized that japanese say only what's needed to be said.


  • "JREFのメンバーの中(なか)で、一番(いちばん)セクシーなのは...ASHIKAGAですね。"


    :giggle:


  • ううん is, as far as i know, uuum. XD Though i usually here that as just "ん~~"


  • the はい and いいえ and omitted and implied... However... I've never seen that happening... and wouldn't うん be a little awkward? Native confirmation please!


  • Sorry for the double post, but how often is ん~~~ used?

    When I was in class and we had Japanese exchange students, I don't recall hearing them say it. They would either say あの~~~ or えと~~~。

    Just curious.

    Quite often, I think. I might say あの~ or ええと~/えと~/えっと~ when I am trying to recall/remember something while I am more likely to say ん~~ when I am trying to come up with an answer to some quistion to which there is no one correct answer as the one I gave as an example in my last post.

    4 + 4 はなんですか?
    What is 4 + 4?

    えっと~......8です。
    Lemme see.....8!

    (雑誌(ざっし)にでているレベッカ・ロメインの写真 ( しゃしん)を指差(ゆびさ)して) これは誰(だれ)ですか?
    (Pointing at a picture of Rebecca Romijn in a magazine) Who is this?

    あの~~ほら、あの人(ひと)!X-メン の映画(えいが)に出(で)てる人(ひと)!
    errrrrr/ummmm/oh oh oh oh*....you know....HER! The one in the X-Men movies! *depends on how you say it.

    あの~could also be used when you are trying to get someone's attention.

    あの~、水(みず)をもう一杯(いっぱい)もらえますか?
    Excuse me! Can I have another glass of water?

    あの~、カイル先生(せんせい)? 夏期講習(かきこうしゅう)を受(う)けなければいけませ んか?
    Excuse me, Mr.Kyle? Do I have to attend the summer school?



     


  • ううん is, as far as i know, uuum. XD Though i usually here that as just "ん~~"

    What about ”あの〜〜〜?”
    That is what I have heard the most.


  • 「JREFのメンバーの中(なか)で、一番(いちばん)セクシーなのは誰(だれ)だと思(おも)いますか?」
    「ん〜〜〜〜それは難(むずか)しい質問(しつもん) ですね。もし一人(ひとり)だけ選(えら)ぶとしたら 、ASHIKAGAですね。」 
      

    LOL! Oh and thank you for putting the furigana in parenthesis next to the kanji, I could understand it so much better! I know it's a hassle for you guys, and I am working on the kanji situation!


  • Jitenchakun,
    I do not see the contradiction in the two paragraphs. Can you explain it to me? Are you saying that, in the first paragraph, the は is showing an inclusion, while in the second paragraph the は is showing the opposite of an inclusion?
    You're right, Buntaro-san.

    There is no contradiction. Tae Kim explains the difference clearly (in my personal opinion).


  • Can you give me a scenario where the 「ん〜〜〜」is used?

    「JREFのメンバーの中(なか)で、一番(いちばん)セクシーなのは誰(だれ)だと思(おも)いますか?」

    「ん〜〜〜〜それは難(むずか)しい質問(しつもん) ですね。もし一人(ひとり)だけ選(えら)ぶとしたら 、ASHIKAGAですね。」 

      


  • Thanx undrentide and 緑さん. I'll check those out.


  • Kyle... http://www.yomigana.com XD Problem solved... Not to mention that just about any japanese <=> english dictionary also uses ひらがな


  • ううん is, as far as i know, uuum. XD Though i usually here that as just "ん~~"
    ううん is straightout "no." うーん is written as the interjection you're thinking of, the one that gives us time to think on our feet. :cool: "hmmm....let me see...well..." :?


  • Jitenchakun,

    I do not see the contradiction in the two paragraphs. Can you explain it to me? Are you saying that, in the first paragraph, the は is showing an inclusion, while in the second paragraph the は is showing the opposite of an inclusion?


  • http://www.guidetojapanese.org/particles.html
    Practical Particular Particles from Tae Kim's Japanese guide to Japanese Grammar

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_grammar#Topic.2C_theme.2C_and_subject:_.E 3.81.AF_.28wa.29_and_.E3.81.8C_.28ga.29
    Wikipedia (Japanese Grammar)
    Particles: Topic, thesem and subject: は (wa) and が (ga)


  • Practical Particular Particles from Tae Kim's Japanese guide to Japanese Grammar
    I went through this lesson & seem to have found an error. Can anyone verify?
    Example 3
    This is also another possibility.
    ボブ: アリスは学生?- Are you (Alice) student?
    アリス: ううん、ト も学生じゃない。- No, and Tom is also not student.
    So why would Alice, all of a sudden, talk about Tom when Bob is asking about Alice? Maybe Tom is standing right next to her and she wants to include Tom in the conversation.
    This directly contradicts a previous paragraph:
    Example 1
    ボブ: アリスは学生?- Are you (Alice) student?
    アリス: うん、ト も学生。- Yes, and Tom is also student.
    Notice, that Alice must be consistent with the inclusion. It would not make sense to say, "I am a student, and Tom is also not a student." Instead, Alice would use the 「は」 particle to remove the additional meaning of inclusion as seen in the next example.
    Shall I notify the site owner?


  • あの〜〜〜 is used most often to attract someone's attention (commonly to ask a question).
    It can also be used as filler when you're trying to think what to say next.

    Can you give me a scenario where the 「ん〜〜〜」is used?


  • Sorry for the double post, but how often is ん~~~ used?

    When I was in class and we had Japanese exchange students, I don't recall hearing them say it. They would either say あの~~~ or えと~~~。

    Just curious.


  • ううん is, as far as i know, uuum. XD Though i usually here that as just "ん~~"
    What you're thinking is 「ん~~」, and that's like "uuummm."

    ううん is pronounced as it is written and means "no."
    What about ”あの~~~?”
    That is what I have heard the most.
    あの~~~ is used most often to attract someone's attention (commonly to ask a question).
    It can also be used as filler when you're trying to think what to say next.







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